Dear Time Magazine,
Please shut up.
We are too busy parenting our own kids to get all riled up about some hackneyed feud with other parents that you're making up to sell copies.
It makes you look out-of-touch and desperate, not to mention misogynist and patronizing.
And no, I'm not going to link to your inflammatory cover.
If you're taking requests, how about doing a piece that will actually help parents instead of setting us against each other.
Sincerely,
Moxie
Hooray for Moxie! Thank you so much for posting this, and I hope you sent a copy to the editorial board at Time.
Posted by: Maria | May 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM
A-friggin-men.
Posted by: Libbyllama | May 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM
How about a how-to guide to insist on decent maternity/paternity benefits? Short of moving to Canada or Europe, I mean.
Posted by: Kate | May 10, 2012 at 12:40 PM
That would be awesome, Kate.
Posted by: Moxie | May 10, 2012 at 12:49 PM
YES!! Wtg Moxie :)
Posted by: Sarah | May 10, 2012 at 01:05 PM
SO this. Seriously, 98 percent of everyone I know doesn't give a rat's ass about details like where other people's babies sleep, how parents transport said babies, or what the babies eat. It's the whackadoos who are bound determined to show THEY KNOW BEST that ruin it for the normal people.
Posted by: AmyinMotown | May 10, 2012 at 01:33 PM
can I co-sign?
Posted by: roramich | May 10, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Sing it, sister.
Posted by: Tine | May 10, 2012 at 01:55 PM
You tell 'em, Moxie! Sheesh, first Newsweek attempts to become edgy by giving space to Katie Roiphe, and now this.
I like most of the women I know. It's lucky I know them in ways unmediated by desperate newsweeklies.
Posted by: Slim | May 10, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Totally, right on, this made me so annoyed. What a fake debate.
Posted by: Cordy | May 10, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Oh, sister, I am SO with you. I just wrote a post about making mothers into caricatures, and I still clicked it without thinking.
I am fed up with this.
Posted by: Katie | May 10, 2012 at 02:04 PM
THANK YOU!! (I don't usually use all caps, but this deserves it).
Posted by: Ann Z | May 10, 2012 at 02:11 PM
WHAT ANN Z said...
Posted by: moosilaneous | May 10, 2012 at 02:37 PM
I wholeheartedly agree!!!!
Posted by: Meg | May 10, 2012 at 02:41 PM
I can't decide what I'm more upset about. I hadn't looked at the cover until after I read Moxie's post; I'm confused about what their point is. When I think of Time magazine, I think of world-wide issues that are years in the making, big picture type of stuff. I don't know if I'm going to cause a ruckus here, but in the U.S. women BFing past 3 years seem like an outlier, or atleast not numerous enough to be on the cover of this magazine. I could see exploring how we can increase extended breastfeeding rates in this country, the ways that our health care industry could do better to support moms who want to breastfeed, etc. But saying are you mom enough right before Mother's Day? That's just low. It's the same old crap. Mothers are expected to be all, do all, please all, win all, be the best at everything, keep it all together all the time, and look fantastic while doing it. It is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS the way our media beats up moms. Don't get me started about dads either. OK I guess I'm not confused anymore. Just pissed.
Posted by: Vacationland Mom | May 10, 2012 at 03:14 PM
THIS! Yes! Thank you! I mean, way to avoid actually having a conversation by painting such a grotesque caricature.
Posted by: vanessa | May 10, 2012 at 03:25 PM
You rock babe!!! I needed to see your stand against the haters today! Thanks!
Posted by: Sharon Silver | May 10, 2012 at 03:36 PM
@Vacationland Mom, I nursed past 3rd bday twice and what made me furious about the pic was what a set up it was. Standing on a stool? Ridiculous. You want pic of a 3 yo nursing? 95% chance someone's in pajamas.
Total red herring. So many more important things to discuss.
Posted by: Kate | May 10, 2012 at 03:40 PM
Love this post - thank you, I needed it (already) as I dread the aftermath of whatever lies inside the cover!!
Posted by: Jill | May 10, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Well said. Clapping my hands over here.
Posted by: Jaime | May 10, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Sigh. My parents subscribe to Time and I suspect they're going to leave it for me to read. I'm not sure if I should read anything into that.
And yay Vacationland Mom. Just YAY.
Posted by: ARC | May 10, 2012 at 04:40 PM
More clapping over here, too.
Posted by: Bird | May 10, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Yay Vactionland Mom and I'm with Kate--a how-to better navigating the little support there is in the US would be a welcome article.
Posted by: Anon | May 10, 2012 at 04:54 PM
Word.
Posted by: eee | May 10, 2012 at 05:27 PM
end of discussion. seriously, your response is the only one that's necessary.
Posted by: april. | May 10, 2012 at 07:15 PM
Exactly, Kate!
Posted by: Another Kate | May 10, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Anyone in the U.S who breast feeds past your 3 month maternity leave is a hero to me - I don't know how you do it. Let alone the sleep deprivation etc etc.....at least in Canada we have a year to get the hang of it.
Posted by: Carrie | May 10, 2012 at 08:05 PM
Will you marry me?
Posted by: Lisa | May 10, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Seriously!
Posted by: Jessica | May 10, 2012 at 08:35 PM
THANKKKKK YOU!
Posted by: DC Ebaugh | May 10, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Let's ALL write a letter to Time saying basically what Moxie said.
Posted by: Maria | May 10, 2012 at 08:50 PM
Amen. There are so many other, more important things to discuss about parenting. Their article and cover are totally off the mark.
Posted by: Sarah | May 10, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Oh, my, also do not read Time because there are better sources of current news out there and more in depth stuff is better elsewhere too... so hadn't seen the cover but boy is it offensive. Thank you Moxie!
Posted by: Laura | May 10, 2012 at 09:10 PM
PREACH!
Posted by: Lisa @ Crazy Adventures in Parenting | May 10, 2012 at 09:33 PM
So true.
Kind of shocking how transparent it is.
Posted by: Amanda | May 10, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Let's all sign Moxie's letter and send it to Time.
Posted by: the milliner | May 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Yahoo Moxie!
Posted by: G's Mum | May 10, 2012 at 10:23 PM
LOVE. YOU.
Posted by: Caprice | May 10, 2012 at 10:54 PM
omg... I didn't think it was possible to love you more but now I do!!
Posted by: Hh | May 10, 2012 at 11:40 PM
That would be fantastic!
Posted by: Oakley Sunglasses | May 11, 2012 at 02:53 AM
Long time lurker from Australia here. Just chimming in to say right on Moxie!
The best response I have seen to the stupid cover/article. The sad thing is that TIME will be petting themselves on the back for this article because despite being a load of crap it has gone global and will make them a fortune. As I said I am in Aus and EVERY SINGLE NEWS SHOW covered this cover for atleast 20mins. It is still on this evening with women from both sides flexing their muscles over the issues it raises.
So my thanks is both for the awesome letter and not linking to the cover - it doesn't need any more hits of encouragement.
Posted by: Louise | May 11, 2012 at 05:25 AM
YES!!! AMEN
Posted by: Jo-Ann | May 11, 2012 at 07:49 AM
I know - my first thought was really, Time? REALLY? So desperate and pathetic, jumping on the mommy wars/breastfeeding train. It's bad enough to engage in a mommy war baiting game by challenging people to trash talk extending BF (since we know the majority of people in the US think BF past 12 months is gross), but then to add the title was just too much!
What I love about the Moxie community is that it is the OPPOSITE of all that. Thank you, guys, for rocking motherhood in all its variety of shapes, forms, philosophies.
Posted by: Erin | May 11, 2012 at 07:55 AM
@Kate- totally with you on the pajamas thing! And I think that's fricken awesome that you nursed your kids past 3.
I bet it's intentional (the way the pic is set up), maybe to make even people who are totally fine with extended breastfeeding feel vaguely uncomfortable and not know why. Like "something isn't right here."
An acquaintance was talking to me yesterday about how she saw a woman BFing her 5 year old and she thinks it's ridiculous, etc etc. Because I was already riled about this, and because I'm PMSing, I was like: "I don't really care what other people do." She didn't say much... UGH I can't even write all my thoughts, so much ugly, I get wicked pissed when people say "Well are you going to be nursing him until he's 10 years old or something??!!" as if because I'm still nursing him at 18 months that means that I'm going to go another 8.5 YEARS?! Why does BFing beyond a year automatically extend to 10 years??? OK I'm done. On to more important endeavors.
P.S. We are all rockin moms, doing the best we can, making the choices we think are best for us and our families. Everyone else can suck it :)
Posted by: Vacationland Mom | May 11, 2012 at 08:43 AM
I haven't read the article, only seen the picture - and I'm judging it. My judgement is not about BFing vs not BFing - I agress with Moxie on this.
But it bugs me that a decision was made to put a child on the cover in this context. He has no choice in this - he is being used by another party to endorse their adult point of view and their agenda. That p***es me off.
Posted by: Mary-Christine | May 11, 2012 at 10:59 AM
A friend brought up the issue of how this kid is going to feel about the cover when he's a teenager. Yuck.
Posted by: ARC | May 11, 2012 at 11:06 AM
Yes! Starting feuds between mothers seems to be the new national past-time. It needs to stop.
Posted by: Sarah | May 11, 2012 at 12:11 PM
The problem is that the KIDS DO NOT MATTER.
To the folks at Time, all that matters is readership and publicity. To the people who fuel this nonsense and provide the fodder that feeds such articles, it's about BEING RIGHT.
Think about it. Cover art of this sorts takes a number of people. And all of them agreed, or acquiesced in something that has a very high chance of doing the child real damage! It's not even like they tried to hide the name of the mother. Which means that an internet search of the name is going to lead to this kid's picture for the rest of his life, most probably. Great stuff, no?
It doesn't make a difference what stand, if any the article took (I didn't read it.) The issue is the image that will be stuck to this child. Publicly posting any image of a child is something that needs to be thought about carefully (and is all too often not thought about.) Post such an inflammatory (and titillating) one is simply not fair.
Posted by: Preagmatist | May 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM
What bothered me about the cover is that it isn't representative of *any* of us...not even of the woman and her son depicted on it. Does she nurse her son like this? Please. The photographer, editor, etc., set this up to make the mom look defensive and hostile and the kid to look like an unwitting player in the whole thing.
It certainly doesn't represent me, someone who IS actually still nursing a 3-year-old. Extended nursing usually happens for 3 minutes a day, once or twice a day. It's not a big deal, it shouldn't be a badge of honor for anyone, nor should it be used against anyone. It's one tiny fact in the novel of me as a mother.
Time somehow managed to infuriate every woman out there...women with no kids who find the picture disgusting...women who didn't/couldn't nurse...women who do nurse in an extended way but aren't represented in that photo. Way to go, Time, way to go.
Posted by: meggiemoo | May 11, 2012 at 12:44 PM
BINGO! THANK YOU......I am so sick and tired of mothers being bullied about what is a natural thing to breastfeed your child and cuddle with your child in a sling! Really, and for Mother's Day? I wish I had a subscription just so I could cancel it to relieve me of this anger. As a mother who breastfed my children to the age of two, when they decided they didn't want to anymore, not me, they are all wonderful, secure, educated children and, one, a mother of a 2 year old with another on the way. It is time not to judge women on what choices they choose, no matter what the choice. If you don't like it look away! As long as a choice is made with love, no matter what the choice, cloth diapers vs. paper, breastfeed vs. bottle feeding, sling vs. stroller, and it doesn't hurt anyone else, be quiet. I thought we were trying to teach our children not to pick on people? How is this ever going to be accomplished if every dinner table conversation due to Time Magazine is now ridiculing a mother who chooses to breastfeed their child beyond a few months??? Seriously, people are calling the Social Services on this woman on the cover!!! Get your mind out of the gutter, breasts do not belong to the men in our lives, they are not just sexual objects secured to our bodies for their pleasure! Hello.... this is what they were designed to do! They are acting like immature 12 year old boys!
Posted by: Mindi | May 11, 2012 at 01:51 PM