Jillian writes:
"N (boy) is 3 years old and toilet trained for pee and 'diaper trained' for poo. That is, he can control when he poos, but refuses to do it in the toilet. He holds it until he's in bed for nap or the night (the only time he gets a diaper) and then lets loose. I've tried every form of incentive and they don't work. He's done it a couple of times in the toilet for chocolate, a cupcake AND 'toilet fairy' stickers (yes, all at once!) but he's back to doing it in the diaper. He has a fearful reaction to the idea of sitting on the toilet for poo combined with that 3-year old need for control. I can't even make him do it in the diaper in the bathroom - he has to be in his bedroom. I'm not pushing the issue because I don't want him to get constipated but changing a 3 year old's poopy diaper is getting old fast. Quite frankly, it's gross.
Would love to hear from anyone who's been there, done that."
I have no idea. I wish I did, but as I say every time we have a potty learning question, both my boys trained themselves, and I was just kind of the facilitator (and my babysitter B, too, with the second one). So I really have no secrets or much to offer on this.
So I'm tossing it out to the readers, and hoping someone's been through this and has some words of advice for Jillian. I agree that it seems counterproductive to try to force it. Would it help to have N shadow another kid who poops in the toilet so he'd be encourage by peer pressure? It sounds like rewards aren't working. Anything else anyone can suggest?
The thing that helped my poop-aversive daughter was books. We gave her a stack of some new books in a basket beside the toilet. She would sit there and "read" until the poop came out. It distracted her from the job at hand and gave her something to look forward to on the potty. She ended up being completely trained (poop & pee) at 3 yrs, 2 mos.
Posted by: ff | January 23, 2009 at 05:43 PM
As an addition to above, it was not night-trained LOL, just day.
Posted by: ff | January 23, 2009 at 05:44 PM
@N, my sympathy is totally with your son. Their shame-based reaction is just HORRID! Aside from finding him a nice Montessori school ASAP (where accidents are considered a real and sane and not-to-be-beaten-with part of the learning discovery process), I'd just make sure he knows that you're as outraged and humiliated by their treatment of him as he is. It's a respect issue, and it is a developmental psychology issue - if you make him MORE scared, he'll be worse, not better, dammit!
Any chance you can see a developmental psychologist or pediatric psychologist? Not because I think your son 'needs help' - but because I think you could use an expert in your corner regarding the school. Plus, I found that the psychologist that helped us with Miss M (who didn't much have potty issues, but a lot of anxiety otherwise) gave us some great ideas of strategies to help build up the emotional strategies for these kinds of situations - including preparatory strategies, in-there-in-the-moment strategies, and exit strategies. Having all three, and a variety of each of them, has been a huge huge huge benefit for Miss M. Granted, she has a dietary tie-in (gut fermentation imablances her body chemistry so far that it makes the anxiety very severe just from diet errors), but even on the best diet for her (low FODMAPs diet, you can look it up online), she still has needed the strategies... and she's gone from being well inside the anxiety diagnosis (waaaaaay inside) to 'are you SURE she has been diagnosed with anxiety?' (slyly making fish faces at the NP who was holding her head still in the ER while they stapled a gash back together - anxious? HER?). Anyway, it took more than a year of working the strategies to get to her current level of skill, but - well, who doesn't need good skills for handling emotionally stressful situations? No reason to not learn and apply them now! (I can't recall now if it was Your Anxious Child or Helping Your Anxious Child that the psych recommended, but I actually really liked both books.)
Anyway, I still want to march into your son's school and read them the riot act... ARGH. If you can swing a Montessori school... seriously, totally different attitude. Grrrrr.
@stacy, the parents don't do it at that age, the kid does. If they're totally ready for it. Some kids really are, but you have to help by catching that window just right, I think, for most of them. So there were perfect conditions present with me and my sibs, we all trained early - except my eldest brother, who had hydrocephaly with the attendant delays. He wasn't really expected to train, ever. My mom figured we were all really smart, training ourselves (with a lot of support from her), but the next generation down seems just as smart, and... um, no. Still working on one at 4 1/2, who has a very slow trigger on his awareness of urgency - his reaction time is always late, no early warning at all. Bulking him up a lot (banana city!) is the only thing that has really helped. So, sometimes it's one route, sometimes another, and in the end, kids grow up and they get it, and you're working on some other stage or phase or issue, and this one is all in the past.
Posted by: hedra | January 23, 2009 at 05:46 PM
@N: get a new preschool pronto. We go to a Reggio philosophy preschool and potty training and accidents were no big deal. Several 3.5 year olds are still working on it in my dtr's classroom, and no one is shamed about it. I feel badly for your son (and you). Good luck
Posted by: Badger | January 23, 2009 at 06:17 PM
@N - I agree with hedra & Badger about looking into other preschool options. Your mama instincts are right on - the current place just doesn't sound very progressive, or like they've ever even studied the basics of normal developmental psych! If their policies put their own convenience so far ahead of a child's emotional well-being, then I say move on.
Posted by: hush | January 23, 2009 at 06:29 PM
I read about half the responses -- lots of good stuff! I have this to contribute:
-- Kids vary substantially, even with the same parents. I have three boys who PT at ages 4.5 (ugh), 1y11m, and 2y6m. The eldest has had ongoing issues with nighttime bedwetting and poop "accidents" -- so his late PT is no accident (ha ha). The middle boy just announced one evening, "I don't wear diapers anymore; I wear underwear now." And he was right. Zero accidents. The third boy, I worked pretty hard with over the course of several months. Lots of in-progress accidents, but eventually we were good to go. My point is just that kids vary, so even if you're doing the "right" stuff you may not get the same results as other people.
For your situation, I would try adding a potty to his bedroom. Let him sit on it in his diaper if he likes. (I had a friend whose daughter wore a diaper for years, but mom gradually cut away the bottom so the poop fell through into the potty!) I would also reward ALL potty-sitting, even if there's no poop -- this worked with my 3rd. I would say, "you don't have to poop, but if you sit, I can give you a candy." He liked Hershey's kisses and tootsie rolls best -- the unwrapping was a big deal.
Posted by: Rachel | January 23, 2009 at 07:32 PM
stacy @ 4:45, i'm so totally with you - son just turned 2, very language delayed, has no notion whatever about pee or poop coming out & their presence in his diaper. heck, he's only been walking a month. the two differences - he will sit still, and i don't have any friends with babies. well, one, but he's 5 & she lives 2 1/2 hours away...
but i'm filing this stuff away for future need, so thanks, moxites!
Posted by: marci | January 23, 2009 at 07:37 PM
I just remembered one more strategy that I read about somewhere, and we were about to try it if we didn't have luck with the Miralax....
I read that some kids just can't poop sitting down. They're so used so standing up, or lying flat, that sitting is just too strange for them. So what's recommended is to put newspaper down on the bathroom floor beside the toilet and let them stand and poop onto the newspaper. Easy to clean up, associating poop with the bathroom, and at least the anxiety levels are kept down (if the anxiety is sitting on the toilet).
I know this sounds kind of like puppy training, but well, whatever works!
I already posted how we dealt with our DS, and we're still in the process, but I just want to reiterate that sometimes the physical and the psychological are so intertwined that it's tough to figure out what's really going on. It helped that we pretty much gave up on the psychological and just focused on the physical problems of constipation and colon distention. The psychological seemed to follow suit once we got the physical stuff managed.
Posted by: professor mama | January 23, 2009 at 07:51 PM
While we're on the subject (sort of), can anyone suggest an environmentally friendly way to clean out the potty? I want it to be clean but would rather not use a lot of bleach or antibacterial stuff, esp since I'm pregnant. My 2.5-y-o son only occasionally uses the potty but seems on the verge of using it more. For pee I confess I've just rinsed it out (pee is sterile, after all), but for poop? Can I just use the Ecover cleaner I have for the big toilet? Or should I really be using antibac cleaner? I will if you guys say so. :-)
Posted by: Ginevra | January 23, 2009 at 08:08 PM
We just went through this exact thing. My daughter would go to her "pooping window" and demand a diaper to poop in. This went on for about 6 months--from the time she was 2.5 until the morning she turned 3. On the morning she turned three, she announced that "big girls poop in the potty and now that I'm 3, I'm a big girl." So, I don't have any advice per se, other than he'll at some point decide that he doesn't want to do that anymore. She's never gone back.
Posted by: Jennifer | January 23, 2009 at 09:22 PM
All I can say is you guys gave all of my suggestions AND I learned a few news ones today, thanks.
Don't forget water rich foods as well so the stool isn't to hard. I agree with Hedra, praise all poop.
Posted by: Sharon aka Mommie Mentor | January 23, 2009 at 09:26 PM
Thanks so much for the support -- this week has been really rough, and I truly appreciate it. Unfortunately, while I would love to drop this preschool like a hot potato, I've missed the cut-off for applying to others (and it's quite competitive around here), plus we have full financial aid at this one, and I'm a dead-broke, unemployed single mom.
Hedra, your suggestion of seeing a psychologist for help dealing with the preschool is great; at the moment, I feel like if I try to talk to the preschool director I'll either burst into tears or unleash one of my signature vicious tongue-lashings, neither of which would really help matters in the long run. Meanwhile my son now says he wants to go back to diapers, but he still refuses to poop -- talk about the worst of both worlds. Poor kid, my heart just breaks for him...
Posted by: N | January 23, 2009 at 09:32 PM
I could have written this exact question. Oh my lord, I am so sick of this pooping in the diaper in the crib business. Off to read the comments!
Posted by: Snarky Mommy | January 23, 2009 at 10:24 PM
A related question if anyone has the time to answer - my son is just 16 months old so this is not an issue for us yet - but is there a good guide to potty training? I read the remark about starting early - but I am not sure how to start (when we do start). Is there a recommended book to read?
Posted by: hope | January 23, 2009 at 10:25 PM
@stacy: Right there with you. My son was severely language delayed at 2. Add some motor delays, uncoordination, and some quirky sensory issues (i.e. he becomes ballistic if you try to make him take clothes off...the first time he walked around barefoot I cried). There was no chance of early training with him. We had to wait until he could communicate. Which is great, because now he can tell me he needs to poop and that there's no chance he'll be doing it in the toilet today! Que sera sera, I guess.
Posted by: Christine Butkiewicz | January 23, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Our boy is now 4 and change and has only recently decided to poop in the potty and backslides if he's distracted or upset. In the spirit of the captain of a ship kicking holes in the lifeboats to motivate the crew, we switched completely over to big boy underwear, which resulted in handwashing a LOT of poopy underwear.
There is no elegant way around this.
I tell you this in the spirit of "You are not alone", - not trying to scare or dishearten you. I think it's just a matter of he'll poop like a big boy when he feels like it and not a moment before.
Sorry and rueful, knowing, half-smiles,
John
Posted by: John | January 24, 2009 at 04:20 AM
My 2.5 yr old has been in 'big boy undies' for about a month but still waits for nap/bedtime nappy for his poo, so this is really timely for me too. I was going to just let it run it's course but some of the strategies here might really work for DS (curiosity will be a great hook for him).
Stacy, I think that it's important to remember that different kids are ready for different things at different times. You don't mention whether it is an all round language delay but if his receptive language is up to it you might want to start 'commentating' when you go so that he gets the idea. It will all happen eventually.
Posted by: keda | January 24, 2009 at 05:49 AM
Thanks to everyone for the great suggestions. Especially the reminder to keep it positive and relaxed even when frustrated ('praise all poo') and take a close look at what motivates my son generally before picking an approach.
When I look at how he acts in daily life, it's clear to me that he's a kid who is self-motivated, prizes his independence and is repelled by any obvious attempt to lead him where he doesn't want to go. Typical 3-year old boy and then some. If he's into it, he follows. If not, see you later. Looking at it this way, I should have seen the failure of the obvious potty pressuring tactics/incentives coming.
The poo-present-bowl thing with the aloof introduction (most important part for him) seems to best fit his profile. Shadowing does too since it's basically just letting him look and draw his own conclusions about being a big boy and what that means. We have some cool 6 year old (male) cousins who may be willing to invite Noah into the bathroom with them (after parental permission, explanations and lots of bribery, of course). Apparently Mom-poo is not nearly cool enough.
Thanks for helping me think out loud and letting me match my kid with the strategies. It sounds like the advice will help a lot of us out there.
xox
Posted by: Jillian | January 24, 2009 at 06:34 AM
@stacy - As I said, N is a really independent kid and his pee-training (at 2.5) really didn't involve any language/communication at all. We kept him naked and made a low potty available to him. Once he made the connection between the feeling of peeing and seeing it come out he just started running to the potty to sit. He never said anything to us. Our communication to him was basically "Oh look! Pee!" and then took him to sit on the potty.
Of course, I don't know your situation, but I'm hoping this gives some comfort that there are other ways besides requiring him to say "Mommy! I have to pee!".
x
Posted by: Jillian | January 24, 2009 at 06:42 AM
For those commenters who were asking about books to read on early(er) potty learning (i.e., not potty learning from birth, usually called Elimination Communication, but earlier than is usually done today in North America and Britain) I recommend Jill M. Lekovic's "Diaper-Free Before 3":
http://www.diaperfreebefore3.com/excerpt.html
She can be a little intimidating (if I remember correctly her chapter on "later" potty learning covers starting after 6-9 months, which could freak many people out, I know), but her methods are gentle, respectful (of child and parent) and quite Montessori in many respects (going back to Hedra's comments above). She also has chapters on potty learning for learning-disabled children. Oh, and she's a scientist, and has definitely done her research, for those of you (us!) who like that kind of thing.
Posted by: Cassie | January 24, 2009 at 08:56 AM
I had the exact same issue with my now 4 year old son. It took from age 2 to age 3 to get him to pee in the toilet and another 6 months to get him to consistently poop in the potty. It's definitely a control issue with him-he will go days without pooping if we don't remind him to go. When he was finally ready to poop in the potty (after we tried everything-bribes, lectures (what were we thinking on that one?!), ultimatums (again-not a good idea!)...what finally worked was letting it go (on my husband's and my part) and not talking about it. But the real key was having a potty chair. I think the idea of being able to sit down on a kid-sized potty and put his feet on the ground was less scary that sitting on the big black hole of the adult toilet with his legs dangling off.
Believe me we thought our son would be the only 14 year old that still didn't poop in the potty but today he is a 4 year old that does poop in the potty. Sometimes every other day...yay! My point being-your son will poop in the potty. He will. And i highly recommend a potty chair. Good luck! My fingers and my toes are crossed for you!
Posted by: Tracey | January 24, 2009 at 09:43 AM
Everything I have read says that the potty needs to be viewed as a normal thing. This means you should buy the potty MONTHS before you plan to try and train your child. When you (the parent) use the potty invite your child into the room, bring a book or toy for them to entertain themselves. They may take that opportunity to mimic you and sit on their own potty. Encourage it! Not only are they learning by observing but they are also learning that using the potty is a normal part of Mommy and Daddy's day too.
If you can build it into your routine for example: after meals we wash our hands and sit on the potty they won't see it as "interrupting" their play, instead it's just part of the day.
This method works especially well for kids who do not respond to rewards. But like everything when you introduce change kids need time to adapt to that change.
Posted by: Emily | January 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM
My daughter did this (only pooping in diaper during naps or at night) for several weeks while we were potty training her at 2-1/2 yrs. I'm still not quite sure what her objection was to pooping on the potty, but what fixed it for us was "poop presents". My daughter was *really* into unwrapping presents, so we wrapped a bunch of little gifty things up in pretty wrapping paper and put them in a clearly visible (but unreachable) place. She saw them immediately and asked what they were, and we explained that they were poop presents, and that she could open one each time she pooped on the potty. She held out for 3 days, but she obviously really wanted to open a present, and eventually she started pooping on the potty so she could get a present. We kept the presents coming for about 2 weeks, then discontinued them and she was fine.
Posted by: Sarah D | January 24, 2009 at 06:57 PM
My guy is 3.7, a Miralax and constipation kid who still can't get to the potty on time for poop (pee is fine). He explains that the poop surprises him; that he doesn't feel it coming and that is why he misses the potty. It's been a source of shame/esteem for him and we've been taking Hedra's approach lately of praising all poop no matter how surprising or nasty the mess (he also has acid reflux - those who know need no further explanation). I'm seriously hoping that fairly soon he'll just fall into a groove and get it but because he's so serious and sensitive I'm just letting him learn at his own pace. I do believe every child is different and only trial and error will show you the best way to handle individual situations. Good luck.
Posted by: Day | January 25, 2009 at 12:18 AM
I just read someone else's comment, and...YES, FLUSHABLE WIPES! I totally forgot about those. My son went through a time when the flushable wipes were more comfortable than dry tissue on his bum. Definitely try the flushable wipes; there are several brands that come in cute containers for kids. Fun and practical. :-)
Posted by: Beth | January 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
For the constipated kids, I know this may seem counter-intuitive, but try cutting out ALL fruit, fruit juice, and fruit-sweeteners (fructose, high fructose corn syrup, honey, concentrated pear/peach/apple juice) for 4 days. I swore that there was no way that Miss R could be reacting to fructose by constipating, but I was WRONG. For some kids, excess fructose (more than they can digest readily, which means about half of what most kids consume daily in the US) leads to constipation. ESPECIALLY notable with the reflux-plus-constipation route (oh, the puking through the nose when straining... so sucks!) - cutting out the fruit entirely (wheat in addition for my kids, it has a lot of fructose and fructans), going to white rice, white potatoes, and rice noodles and froz concentrated OJ and plain sugar or cane juice sweeteners, ALL the difference. We have not had ONE stool hard enough to cause puking since we made the switch.
Age 1-3 years has the lowest tolerance of fructose, by the way - it gets better after that. So it is worth a trial, four days and you WILL know - stools will soften on day four if the problem (or a contributing problem) is excess fructose in the diet.
Posted by: hedra | January 25, 2009 at 08:07 AM
MM did that. My mom says I did too. Let it ride, he'll start pooping on the potty in his own good time.
Posted by: liz | January 25, 2009 at 02:18 PM
And, I totally assumed y'all were using flushable wipes. I mean, fer cryin' out loud, MY ENTIRE FAMILY uses them, from Great-grandma on down.
Dry toilet paper is completely inadequate for poops no matter who is doing the pooping.
Posted by: liz | January 25, 2009 at 02:38 PM
ah, but we have a weird hybrid septic/city system and the pumps can't handle them, so they have to be put in the trashcan...beware!
Posted by: marci | January 25, 2009 at 02:52 PM
My oldest daughter did this for more than two years. She was potty trained shortly after her second birthday, but simply refused to poop in the potty until a couple of months after her fourth birthday. We tried everything. Bribes, food, toys... didn't work. We took away the pull ups and she held it for EIGHT days. (Miralax had to be involved to work that out) We followed our pediatrician's suggestions. We researched online. Nothing.
So with some reluctance we just decided to give in. She wore panties all the time and would go fetch a pull up when she had to poop. She would do her business in the bathroom and come get us to help clean up.
Then one day, shortly after our second daughter was born we were at a party. I didn't particularly want to be there, but my oldest was playing with friends and having a ball. She comes running up to me and said "Mama, I have to poop, I need a pull up." I say, "I don't have any pull ups, so we're going to have to go home." "But I don't want to go home." "Do you want to try sitting on the potty?" (knowing it won't work) She says 'sure,' hops on the potty, does her business and never looked back. Seriously never an issue again.
I have no idea what happened, what clicked. What I will say is, save yourself the frustration if the usual tricks won't work. He'll figure it out when he's ready. And chances are he won't walk down the aisle wearing a pull up.
Posted by: Kathryn | January 25, 2009 at 04:54 PM
I'm a big fan of the Toddler 411 book, and it suggests a several-week process. A week of sitting on a potty chair in the diaper, then a week where you've cut a hole in the diaper, then without the diaper, etc. I'm sure I'm not exactly right on this, but you get the idea.
Posted by: Lindsay | January 25, 2009 at 11:14 PM
I don't have any firsthand experience with this, but I was just reading a potty training book that suggested if your child can only poop in a diaper to lay a diaper on the bathroom floor and let them poop while standing over it to help with the transition to pooping in the bathroom. I think the author also mentioned that some kids get used to pooping standing up and really have a hard time with the leap to doing it sitting down.
Posted by: Keri | January 26, 2009 at 03:11 PM
Same issues with lil'sis! Husband recommended just trying to make the responsibility hers and no longer giving her the option of wearing a diaper. It was a nearly instant transition. She just started going into the toilet during quiet time (she doesn't nap).
We got stuck on the nighttime diaper thing though and would continue putting her in diapers for bed, which were always soaked in the morning. One day we decided to see what would happen if we kept her in panties. We explained the significance and the drill of going to the toilet if she felt it, etc.
I kid you not, she didn't even need to go that night. We were on the fence about it and wondered if it were luck, so we went back to diapers for a couple days, again sopping wet nightly. Back to panties, dry as a bone. One day we just stopped using the nighttime diapers and the rest is history.
Miraculously, she has only had one accident in her bed in the last 4 months of night training. I'm sure we are set to have more, but we're happy.
Posted by: Brienna | January 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM
I had the delight of my daughter teaching herself at 2.2 years. it was all over in a matter of 48 hours... BUT a month or two later she had 6 weeks of shockingly bad viral gastro (on and off). and we have never got back there. In fact it is now worse as she now refuses to do wees in the toilet or potty. Always rushing to gat a diaper. I am going to re-read all the comments but to be honest I am despairing. I try to say to her it is her choice and when she is ready but it is usually after I have put her on the toilet and it has ended in tears. Sigh...
Posted by: Suzie | January 27, 2009 at 04:02 AM
Had the same problem with our DD. We were planning on waiting it out until she was ready to poop in the potty.
Finally, at 4.5yo we forced the issue. (Removal of one her favorite privileges until she met the responsibility of pooping in the potty.)
Within a week, she was pooping in the potty and we've never looked back!
Posted by: Meesha | March 11, 2009 at 07:10 PM
my 4 yr old son hasnt pooped in 6 days will he be ok
Posted by: karen | August 16, 2009 at 06:57 PM
End the battle and put him in old fashioned cloth diapers and rubber pants! He'll be good and uncomfortable and after suffering a sore diaper rash bottom from being wet and messy, he'll quickly learn how to stay dry and clean. Did it with my kids and they learned real fast.
Posted by: barb | January 30, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Did he ever poop on the toilet? I have a 4 1/2 year old with the same problem and I am looking for some encouragement.
Posted by: Christy | August 19, 2010 at 06:44 PM
Good Lord...So many passive parents! Remember that YOU are the parent and the ADULT here my friends! My now 22 year-old daughter was quite resistant to poop in the toilet at age two. I gave her an ultimatum: you either poop in the toilet, or you pick it out of your diaper and put it in the toilet yourself. After doing this once, she was finished going in her diaper. Please don't be afraid to be firm. I assure you it won't ruin your child's fragile psyche... Here's a rule of thumb I like to use when helping others-(which I have often done with this topic)- if your child can tell you he or she needs to be changed, it is absolutely time to be potty trained.
Posted by: Jackie | September 11, 2010 at 11:19 PM
I hope you all have a blessed day
Posted by: air jordans | November 09, 2010 at 04:26 AM
Christine - We used diapers at night by the undwerear that has plastic on the outside during the day. They worked well, didn't leak and if there was an accident, in the laundry the went. No biggy. This worked great my first was trained at 18 mos, second at 20 months and last one at 25 months. However boys are more difficult. (remind me of this when Alexander is big enough. lol) Pull-ups have too few in the package compared to diapers. However if you decide to use them look for coupons online and if you or someone else gets Parents Magazine there are always $2.00 off coupons in there. Best of luck!!!
Posted by: Anmol | June 19, 2012 at 01:17 PM
I have two boys, and so far - the "leak n learn" method as woerkd! My little guy has been peeing in the potty since I wrote the first comment on November 16!! I'm so proud of him. The only problem...poo! He's still unsure and scared of using the potty for poo. So, we're still workin' on it!
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Eventually getting to the place where the puppy will ring the bell and let me know when they need to go potty. Dogs want to please you, so it is your job to let them know what behaviors please you and what doesn't. So when my puppy goes potty, I give her a treat*, and clap, and make a fuss and praise her. So she learns that going potty outside makes me happy. If she has an accident make a disgust sound like “tsst” and take her out right away. I never yell* or spank* my puppies. Take them out when they first wake up, after they eat or drink, before nap, finish romping, when their activities change, or when they are sniffing around. Some puppies go pee right away, but may not go poop until 10 minutes later, so wait for the poop. I have a little play time here, because sometimes I think they are done, and they are not. Puppies train at their own pace. While I may have a puppy that hasn't had an accident in several weeks, I don't let my guard down. I don't expect my puppies to be "fully potty trained" until one-year-old. If they have a setback, shake it off, and start over. I only have my puppies in the crate when I am not watching them. When I am sleeping, cooking, ironing, doing chores, basically when I am not watching her. All other times, she is out of the crate practicing being a "big girl." This is the time I train her how to behave in the house. So we are practicing "no barking", no biting", "no jumping", and "don't eat the furniture." I also have to practice "playing inside" so she doesn't knock over things. You must keep the puppy in sight when they are little because they don’t know the difference between newspaper and carpet, and you don’t want them sneaking off and getting into trouble. Some puppies can sleep through the night around 3-months-old, but their bladder is grown around 6-months-old.REVISIONS:*I use a crate to train with. It is the method I prefer, compared to other methods I have tried. While personally, the crate traumatizes me, (it looks like a doggie jail), my puppies do better in the crate. They like it, I guess for the den like feeling, but I noticed that if they are in the crate, while I am doing chores, they are o.k., because the crate allows them to see me and be re-assured. The crate can also be a comfort when stored in the basement for dogs who live in areas where thunderstorms and tornados are an issue. It is a safe secure place for them. However, use the method that works best for you ..a laundry basket, a cardboard box, a woof-woof house, child gates whatever works for you.*Outside, pee pad, litter box, whichever method you are using. When the puppy is first little, keep the pee pad, litter box near the food and water dish, so the puppy can eat and drink, and then go potty. You can move it away as they get older. The pee pad has a scent that smells and initiates potty. 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We use a big rawhide for when we go on long trips, so they have a bone to amuse them, and they will be expected to hold their potty. When they get the rawhide, they will not eat their food and water, until we get home from our trip. (dogs are funny) Do what works best for you.*Some puppies will go potty in the same spot each time. Some puppies have to be told to go potty. A command like "go out" for pee, or "go finish" for poop, might work for you, keep saying “go finish” until the puppy poops. This is a good thing to train if you travel with your dogs. By using commands, the puppy won't get confused when you are visiting someone, on vacation with you, or when you get to a new home. The command will tell them what you want them to do in an unfamiliar place. You might also want to use a leash method, so the puppy doesn’t sneak off, or for strange places.*Yelling. It is not a good idea to "yell" or "spank" your puppy and then take them outside when they have an accident. 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I have a mini back pack by the door I can just grab with doggie treats, a flash light, a rubber band for my hair when the wind is bad, etc. Do what works for you.*Time lines. Keep it real. Puppies train at their own pace, so while your last 2 dogs may have trained faster, this puppy might take longer. Training is all about routines, and repeating yourself. It is about rewarding good behaviors, and correcting bad ones. If you have a setback, shake it off, and keep going. Good luck.Source: These tips, tricks, and ideas were contributed from many brilliant minds. Thanks for your help!References :
Posted by: Pito | July 27, 2012 at 05:47 AM
The key to house trinnaig or any type of trinnaig for a pup/dog is consistency, diligence, patience and always being done with positive reinforcement.The pup needs to be on a schedule if he is to be trained properly. He needs to be on a schedule.He needs to be taken outside first thing in the morning when he wakes upHe needs to be taken out hourlyHe needs to be taken out after play timeHe needs to be taken out after napsHe needs to be taken out 10-15 minutes after mealsHe needs to be taken out just before you crate him at night.You need to learn his signs for when he needs to be taken out.Every time you take him out to eliminate, bring a special treat. As soon as he goes to the bathroom, praise him, tell him he is a good boy and give him a treat.Do not give a treat unless he eliminates outside. He will soon realize that toileting outside is a good thing that rewards him with something tasty. I suggest using small pieces of sting cheese.Good luckADD:::: If you do decide to enroll in puppy kindergarten and obedience classes, (which I highly recommend) don't go to petsmart or petco. The so called trainers they have are nothing more than every day people who were shown a video and the are given the title of a trainer . Look in your area for local trinnaig facilities as a boxer needs more trinnaig than what the people at pet stores can offer.
Posted by: Asso | July 27, 2012 at 07:34 AM
At twelve weeks old your puppy will need to be taken to the denasgited toilet area every three to four hours.The most obvious times are when you get her out of the crate {if she is crate trained} or after she has eaten a meal.Take her to her *busy spot*, stay with her simply wait for her to urinate/defecate. When she does give toilet command such as *get busy* praise her.Do not allow her back inside until she used the appropriate area.
Posted by: Muhammed | July 27, 2012 at 09:21 AM
I really never stggurled with PT with my older kids but when my 3rd one was ready it seemed to take forever. She was a little on the defiant side. After 2 episodes of finding poopy in her room .I did what you are probably NOT supposed to do .I popped her butt. After that little ordeal, I'm happy to say that she never did that again. I also did Sonic ice cream treats. I had to bribe with this because she needed much more motivation than stickers provided. (Sonic was just down the road at the time too.) I spent quite a bit of $$ on potty snacks gummy bears. Eventually she caught on and I'm happy to say that PT days are long gone. You'll get there. If you don't see some results after finding a plan and sticking to it a couple of weeks, I'd recommend a visit with your pediatrician.
Posted by: Tayse | July 27, 2012 at 02:21 PM
take him all the time to dog park or any park or just on a walk!! and he will pea or poop outside and also when he dose it in the hose scraem at him!!! and when he asks to go outside give him a little treat and he will like it and start doing it all the time!! but he might forget it once in a while so still scraem at him!! it might take a month or weeks!! i don't know!!! hope it helps!!thanks
Posted by: Elcin | July 27, 2012 at 02:23 PM