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SarcastiCarrie

As juice goes, it looks ok.

But, why organic brown rice syrup for sweetening? Is anyone making a juice box whose ingredients are something like this: Water, juice, ascorbic acid? I'm looking for something 75% water, 25% real juice and maybe added vitamin C and that's it. Something for travel or a treat without a bunch of other stuff in it.

Emma Jane

I dunno. We're lucky that Miss T. is also a water-preferring child, so I don't need to worry about it -- but I'm kind of a sucker for the at-most-five-ingredients and/or did-this-ingredient-exist-a-hundred-years-ago criteria, and the Froose ingredients list looks pretty processed.

Not that we eschew all processed food! And making the boxes smaller seems like a great idea. But why be so proud that the grain in your juice is gluten-free? Just don't put grain into the juice!

Robin Reagler

Our girls don't like juice either. They love fruit but say no to juice. It's nice when they have a good habit or two that comes naturally.

Kelly

My oldest doesn't like juice either, so he gets sugared-down koolaid (1/3-1/2c sugar vs 1c). The youngest will only drink water (weirdo). I'd rather have something I can fill up at home (reusable water bottles) than buy juice boxes.

Slim

I am already worried about packing lunches for summer camp (my child gets bored easily, and I am totally envious of parents whose kids want the same thing every day). I'm giving Froose a shot.

Madeleine

Slim, I have the same lunch-packing problem. My daughter called a sandwich boycott a couple of years ago, though I think she's come around to stack-your-own-sandwich since that avoids the sogginess turnoff. Our usual lunch is leftovers from yesterday's dinner, which is fine as long as a) dinner was nut-free (school/camp rules) and b) she liked it and c) we had any left! and d) I can't serve similar dinners twice in a row or boredom sets in. So it restricts my dinner choices somewhat.

Desperation moves are 1) make a quick pot of pasta, throw on some jarred sauce and those convenient frozen chicken chunks, or 2) turkey hot dog. I figure in the aggregate she's eating healthier than if she had a school cafeteria serving junk every day. And she nearly always eats all her baby carrots. (Though she is finally starting to make noises about being bored of those . . . Eeeep.)

meggiemoo

My kid didn't drink juice until his former daycare provider let him have undiluted juice. Hello? Crack might have been less addictive. Now we're offering 90% water, 10% juice and trying to work down from there.

We don't do juice boxes because of the extra packaging being so earth unfriendly. If anyone's looking for an alternative to that for a party (I do admit they're mighty convenient), we just bought a few large bottles of no-sugar-added juice, poured most into another container, and added water. Then we bought cheapo sippy cups that the kids could take home and wrote their names on them. Seemed to work well.

hedra

It's seriously not an option here - we now have child THREE tentatively diagnosed with fructose malabsorption. The one who was always constipated. Dammit, that's a symptom, too. On the plus side, now they're all eating the same diet (except G, who has his own little dietary planet)...

So, whole grains - out, except oats and whole rye. Too much fructan/inulin, too much fructose, too many fermentable carbohydrates. Wheat, especially, is right out, but brown rice is pretty limited as an option as well. So are apples, pears, and any fruit with a pit (they all have sorbitol, which reduces absorption of fructose, so you end up with even worse malabsorption symptoms).

So, Froose would be absolute death for my kids (okay, not death, but pain and suffering, and for two of them, ceasing to grow, and for one of those two, also ceasing to clot properly). The ingredient list reads like the No-No list I send to school. Brown rice syrup is moderately tolerable, but not great. Inulin straight is total disaster. Apple, pear, or cherry juice, total disaster. The water is okay... and the elderberry juice for coloring would probably be okay, too.

I would proceed with caution on consuming them yourself if you have IBS or Chrons disease - talk to your doctor first (if you tend to periodically drink your kids juiceboxes because you need SOMETHING and it's in the diaper bag).

Sounds like healthy and wonderful stuff for 2/3 of the population (about 1/3 of the world population has fructose malabsorption), and like crisis in a shelf-stable box for the rest. And for my kids that would also mean behavior problems, ADHD-like symptoms, anxiety/depression, and rage fits. For three days after consumption. More sigh.

andrea

hedra, question for you about the fructose malabsorption. One of my 9mo twin girls has started getting a very strange -- a bit fruity, a bit almost perfume-y -- urine odour in her nappies (diapers), most noticeably in the overnight one.

The only things I could find via Dr Google related to strange urine odours were UTIs, juvenile diabetes/diabetic ketoacidosis, and Maple syrup urine disease. It clearly wasn't the third so in case it was one of the first two I took her to the Children's Hospital the other day. Her urine tested clear for sugar, ketones and white blood cells, which seemed to rule out the first two options. They had no idea what the cause might be. We have a pediatrician appt coming up in early April.

She's cranky (also teething and drooling a LOT), but not lethargic, etc, so I'm not overly concerned in the immediate short term. But because we have a "control subject" in her sister (whose wet nappies smell simply like pee), who eats the same foods, wears the same brand nappies, etc, I know there must be SOMETHING going on. Reading your post made me wonder if fructose malabsorption causes odd urine odours. That fructose must come out somewhere, right?!

andrea

PS. hedra, on a bit of reading it looks like it's a gut issue and therefore urine wouldn't be affected. Hmmmm.

hedra

I recall something to do with sweet smelling urine and maybe yeast infection? I know my kids have had bouts of sweet smelling diapers, though. And not a clue why. Sigh.

But yeah, FructMal is GI, and since it ferments, it still doesn't smell sweet, usually. More, um, the other. ;)

hedra

No, wait, that was sweet smelling breath and thrush (oral yeast infection). Fat lotta help I am, huh? Sigh.

Lynn

Moxie, I usually think you are brilliant, but it looks like you got fooled here. These are not really juice, the first ingredient it sugar (sure its called brown rice syrup, and yes its better than HCFC, but its still just a sweetener). Watered down 100% juice is better, if you have a kid who won't drink plain water.

Helen

Come on, there's more syrup than juice here! This isn't juice. If you're inclined to be generous, it could be called a juice-based beverage; if not, it's sugar water with some juice in it.

If you want juice, buy juice. If juice is too strong, mix it with water. Don't get caught in the "juice product" trap.

Pegasus

Hedra,
We have a similar situation with our six year old daughter whose urine has a strange odour quite similar to your description.
I'd be very interested to hear how your appointment went.

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