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VirginiaGal

I vaguely remember having vaginal issues around the same age (isn't it wonderful what our memories kindly let us forget or haze over) and one of the solutions was, again, to not wear underwear with night wear (gowns or pajamas). As I recall, the free air flow was important in keeping whatever was going on at bay.

Apparently the episode was pretty traumatic as I still am afraid that wearing underwear to bed for any reason will cause whatever had happened before to come back.

trish

I've had lots of problems with detergents and soaps - and once the skin gets irritated, it's hard to let it heal. I saw a wonderful doctor who proscribed hydrocortisone but in an ointment (like vaseline) instead of a cream and after a while (weeks and months, not days) it healed nicely. Now I'm very careful about soaps, to the point where I'd never use a hotel bathtowel. It's a simple thing that would be worth checking with a gyno or a dermatologist.

FishFace

I'm much like Trish. Have to use Tide Free and Bounce Free to wash my clothes, take showers not baths, and be careful what type of soap I use in the shower. I used to have problems with itchiness (much like your daughter, only the inner folds) and my doctor traced it to the Dove soap I was using. I switched to Lever 2000 and haven't had any more trouble.

I would suggest cutting out the bubble baths, try a new soap without perfume, and let her sleep with no panties and see if that helps.

Good luck.

laurence

My 4ish daughter has the same issues-- a vaginal redness ( tho in her case, she claims it doesn't itch) and a behavior shift to the Dark Side.

In our case, we do know what causes it:
tomatoes.

In any form.
Catsup is particularly evil, but a simple spaghetti dinner is enough to cause Darth Baby to emerge. Her behavior is affected for over a day. She also reacts similarly to raspberries.

So, at least in our experience, a food sensitivity isn't out of the question. We (incl. our ped/naturopath) think the behavior occurs because her body is under a higher level of stress, thus reducing her impulse control.

And while this is completely anecdotal, you might consider eliminating fruit acids for a few weeks.

hedra

If tomoatoes are an issue, also watch out for potatoes, peppers, and eggplant (all nightshades). Tomatoes and eggplant both 'got' M, in a variety of ways.

The other thing that causes the behavior issue is the suppression of seratonin by excess fructose in the GI tract. Low seratonin = ADHD like behavior (no impulse control, violent outbursts, mood swings). Even a small push over the line can be too far. Tomatoes are a high-fructose food, and ketchup has added high fructose corn syrup (most brands). Combo is a KILLER. Though nightshades are also high on the intolerance list, mix an intolerance and excess fructose, and you have recipe for major heartburn (parental, LOL!).

Kelly

A pediatric dermatologist may be helpful. Does your daughter have a pale area of skin around her vagina and anus in an hourglass shape? This could be something called Lichen sclerosis et atrophicus which can be treated with topical steroids. You don't always see the pale skin, and if you can rule out other causes like infections, you may treat presumptively to see if the itching goes away. Good luck!

Sara

I know this is an older post, but I recently read something on baby toolkit about kandoo flushable wipes causing problems that I thought might be another thing to consider. It might not be at all relevant since you mentioned toilet paper, but I wanted to add it to the list, even if it's just for archival sake. Here's the link to the info: http://babytoolkit.blogspot.com/2007/08/kandont-flushable-wipes-cause-problems.html

adrienne

Poor little kid. I know the feeling from my own childhood. (I considered writing this anonymously because I'm still somewhat embarrassed to discuss it...)

Some kids are very prone to urinary tract and yeast infections. I have no idea why your doctor didn't (did he?) test for both these conditions with a simple urinalysis and skin scrape. But my childhood doctor didn't check either (I think some male docs are uncomfortable in this territory as the accurate diagnoses I've heard of come exclusively from female pediatricians..).

If she has one of these infections (which can be agitated by increased sugar intake), it's a ravaging itch that she may be attempting to rub or scratch (privately, because she's traumatically embarrassed/ashamed). The redness can also appear externally without any rubbing, but the discomfort would be hard to ignore.

The use antibiotics sometimes triggers these infections by killing beneficial internal cultures which allow lurkers like yeast an easy environment in which to multiply.

UTIs are caused by a minor anatomical abnormality. If this is the case the infections can be chronic.

They're completely maddening- so there's always a dark personality lurking around the corner waiting for any minor trigger.

These infections are typically minor, but left untreated they can sometimes create more severe, health problems.

More general guidelines for the UT and yeast infection-prone to add to your list (people have already offered great advice here):
Use a gentle, unscented, easy rinse soap like Cetaphil wash. Showers are better than baths. Tight clothes are problematic.

I'm really happy you're investigating a solution even after seeing a doctor. What a good mom! Persevere until your daughter is well.

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Rebekah

It could be genital psoriasis.

shonna

Have her tested for Lichen Sclerosis It sounds like this may be related to the celiac. It usually has tiny white bumps/bubbles & very red shiny skin around her vaginal area.

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